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Bespoke library and storage cupboards in European Oak. I really enjoyed making this one!
13/06/2025

Bespoke library and storage cupboards in European Oak. I really enjoyed making this one!

Gearing up for the next job - some bespoke casements. Devil is in the detail!
27/05/2025

Gearing up for the next job - some bespoke casements. Devil is in the detail!

28/04/2025

Work in progress - transforming a dark room with backlit alcove units, ceiling wash lighting behind cornices and step lighting on the stairs.

And new oak handrails with a modern take on a volute. Now that was tricky!

So I rarely (if ever) rant on Facebook but I just read this article on the "My Job Quote" website and can't believe what...
19/03/2025

So I rarely (if ever) rant on Facebook but I just read this article on the "My Job Quote" website and can't believe what I'm reading!

When I prepare quotes I work out the costs in detail for each job specifically and aim to strike a fair balance between making a workable profit and delivering good value for my customers.

Sometimes I then look at websites like these to see how my pricing compares with the ball-park averages that they provide, being aware that my customers might look to these sort of websites to form an idea of what a reasonable cost is for any given piece of work.

I am preparing a quote for Cedar external cladding at the moment and looked up the webpage, here:
https://www.myjobquote.co.uk/costs/external-cladding-or-rendering-costs

The estimates given are ridiculously low, and this is really unhelpful as it sets an unrealistic expectation for customers and leads to bad feeling when real quotes are provided.

Drilling down into the details you can see why their estimates are so low! They state "A carpenter will cost you around £125 a day". However, the reality is the average day rate for a carpenter just turning up at a building site to work is around £175 - £200 per day (see the Reed agency website , here: https://www.reed.co.uk/average-salary/average-carpenter-salary. Taking their stated average salary of £38,500 and dividing by 225 days, i.e 45 full weeks per year assuming the UK minimum 5.6 weeks holiday entitlement.)

BUT BEAR IN MIND that ALL the cost of planning and organising the work, the cost of sundries, the safety management and of course the risk of making a profit or not is all borne by their employer!

These carpenters just turn up, work hard and go home with £200 a day.

But if you are engaging a self-employed or small business outfit you need to expect that their quote will necessarily include enough to cover all these aspects in addition to the take-home pay.

And it gets worse. My Job Quote also state "The day rate of a simple labourer will usually be £50 to £60 per day".

£50 / 7.5 hours = £6.66 per hour. That is HALF the current Minimum Wage!

Have these people heard of the Minimum Wage?!

Or are they actually promoting modern slavery?

I would urge customers not to rely too much on these sites for price information (or not at all in the case of 'My Job Quote')

Instead I would advise customers to get two or three comparison quotes from local, reputable, and fully insured tradespeople, and to use those quotes as the basis for forming budget expectations.

Thanks for bearing with my rant. I'll try not to do it too often!

Interested in house cladding prices? This house cladding cost guide covers different house cladding options such as uPVC or composite cladding & labour fees!

Just completed installation of this reception desk for the King's conference centre, Norwich. Oak and walnut with Keyed ...
26/02/2025

Just completed installation of this reception desk for the King's conference centre, Norwich. Oak and walnut with Keyed mitre joint feature.

01/02/2025

Making the most of small spaces!

Making the best use of small spaces to maximise storage
29/12/2024

Making the best use of small spaces to maximise storage

07/12/2024

When you don't want functional spaces on display - make them disappear! Enjoyed making these mid-century styled oak sliding partitions.

23/08/2024

My first foray into green oak construction - 150kg of oak beam with dovetailed socket joints. Fun!

Bay window board with inset lights carrying through the herringbone flooring detail.
12/05/2024

Bay window board with inset lights carrying through the herringbone flooring detail.

11/01/2024

This Edwardian front door had a 1/4" bow inwards from the middle to the top. Being a guitarist I thought a truss rod arrangement might pull it out - worked a treat! Filled over with resin and painted, you can't see any trace of it. Perfect.

Just for the record, it wasn't me! I haven't been in Powys for many years. But I do like a tidy workshop!  -shed
09/01/2024

Just for the record, it wasn't me! I haven't been in Powys for many years. But I do like a tidy workshop! -shed

Welsh Tidy Mouse has been sneaking into 75-year-old Rodney Holbrook's shed in Powys "every night" since early October.

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